Curse

AngelWJedi · Nov 20, 2010, 02:49 AM // 02:49

so this update aloud my ranger thing to be updated and i was able to grab the next quest in the line. glad thats fixed. xD course i was in the middle of killing of the dudes when the update happened. >< my timing sucks.

Horace Slughorn · Nov 20, 2010, 03:06 AM // 03:06

I'm still not able to update my Keiran quests, as Gwen keeps repeating her dialogue. This is the 3rd bug "fix" ive downloaded and the problem is still not corrected.

edit: yay its working! she still loops her dialogue, but the items are appearing. thank you for the bug fix <3

Xiaquin · Nov 20, 2010, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by drkn

Even rushing into a mob isn't deadly as long as you kite rangers and use your skills properly. I've never played a ranger besides this year's CB, but that tab is just too powerful to die with.

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Originally Posted by razor39999

I know I do overestimate, but it's as drkn said - even if you pull too many most of the time you can just tough it out and snipe them off... So in other words, you have to play really horribly, or intentionally make it harder on yourself to actually die. Or just watch TV at the same time and hold W. Those would be the only ways I can think of to fail these quests.

These are words of players who cannot perceive that people aren't at the same skill level. It's not easy for everyone to just pick up and kill everything with a brand new bar of made-up skills, not to mention coming down from parties of 6-8. In order to use a build, I don't care how strong, you have to practice and get experience using it.

chadS · Nov 20, 2010, 06:23 AM // 06:23

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Originally Posted by Xiaquin

These are words of players who cannot perceive that people aren't at the same skill level. It's not easy for everyone to just pick up and kill everything with a brand new bar of made-up skills, not to mention coming down from parties of 6-8. In order to use a build, I don't care how strong, you have to practice and get experience using it.

Lol... read the skills > easy. Enough said.

Xiaquin · Nov 20, 2010, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by chadS

Lol... read the skills > easy. Enough said.

Your baffling misuse of inequalities aside, cognitive ability is not derived by reading freaking skill descriptions.

Moving on.

I really liked these quests. While there were some hiccups (my sympathies to those still dealing with them), I felt they were nicely designed and fun. I hope Keiran gets under her skin some more.

shoyon456 · Nov 20, 2010, 09:55 AM // 09:55

I hope you teenage girls are having fun dressing up your characters with wedding costumes while an extremely late SKILL update is moved back even further. GJ on making this game entirely about playing dress up and doing all content easily, instead of being about skill usage.

drkn · Nov 20, 2010, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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These are words of players who cannot perceive that people aren't at the same skill level. It's not easy for everyone to just pick up and kill everything with a brand new bar of made-up skills, not to mention coming down from parties of 6-8. In order to use a build, I don't care how strong, you have to practice and get experience using it.

Sorry, i had no practice with Keiran's build and rangers. I didn't need any experience to use it properly. I just read the skills' descriptions and used them accordingly, killing squishies first.
I agree that someone who just started playing may be lost there, but come on - in order to play as Keiran, you have to finish Prophecies/EotN and finish the entire WiK questline. You're ought to have some general game experience by that time, aka kill squishies first, read skills descriptions, try synergizing with the sin, don't stand like an idiot when you get hit, spam healing. If someone can't read the skills and figure out how to use them, i wonder how he managed to get there in the first place.

Adul · Nov 20, 2010, 11:07 AM // 11:07

Well to be honest when I first completed the quest I didn't care much about learning all of Keiran's skills and what they do. Instead, I just sniped whoever the assassin was calling and pretty much just spammed all other attack skills. I used the healing skill whenever my health or that of the assassin was low.

Despite all of this, I didn't really have a problem with any of the quests, although I can see how they could pose a challenge to new players. Kiting usually helps.

Rushin Roulette · Nov 20, 2010, 12:33 PM // 12:33

OK, I really have no idea what everyones problem is in NM with Thackeray's completely overpowered builds is...

I personally do not like playing Ranger at all and as drkn says... read the skill descriptions, look at what Miku marks and unleash skill 1 on it while keeping the rest of them occupied with interrupts and conditions.

Well, heres how to do the second quest with a little extra on the way;

1. Zone in and mark your first target

2. run around a bit and observe Mikus great marking capabilities;

3. Unleash your arrows on your primary targets group taking out the Monks first and leaving the big half eaten chicken for last (Dont be afraid to run at the start to stay alive). This leaves you with one decaying turkey remains to take care of. Make sure to watch for WHEN Miku marks a target (see the purple Hex Icon on Rotscales Health bar and use skill 1;

4. TRY to interrupt Rotwings skills if you can by spaming skill 3 on recharge, hes going to be concentrating on Miku mainly, so you shouldnt have to worry about too much damage to yoruself;

5. Oops, Rotwing fell over and lost his Bow (Im still wondering why a Necro Not-quite-boss has a Bow instead of a Necro green... but hey its an imaginary pixel chicken, what do you expect... realism?)

6. Ermmm... wasnt there something else to do? Oh yea... Miku was rambling on about killing someone or another... found him;

7. Damn... this boss is sooo hard after Rotscale... I dont know how long it will be until I can kill... oops, hes already dead;

Meridon · Nov 20, 2010, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Xiaquin

These are words of players who cannot perceive that people aren't at the same skill level. It's not easy for everyone to just pick up and kill everything with a brand new bar of made-up skills, not to mention coming down from parties of 6-8. In order to use a build, I don't care how strong, you have to practice and get experience using it.

First attempt ever to do this quest, finished in Hard Mode. No practice needed, just common sense.

Stop being bad.

Shadowspawn X · Nov 20, 2010, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

I hope you teenage girls are having fun dressing up your characters with wedding costumes while an extremely late SKILL update is moved back even further. GJ on making this game entirely about playing dress up and doing all content easily, instead of being about skill usage.

QFT.

Barbie dress up, watered down content for effortless rewards, and a soap opera love story quest chain that goes on over a year is definitely not the GW I knew and loved. Stumme needs to get this ship on the right track and get back to the brutally challenging game that sold millions of copies and created the fan base which demanded the skillful play that made this game famous.

chadS · Nov 20, 2010, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Xiaquin

Your baffling misuse of inequalities aside, cognitive ability is not derived by reading freaking skill descriptions.

I forgot, it's hard to know what skills do after reading them. My bad.

Xiaquin · Nov 20, 2010, 06:13 PM // 18:13

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Originally Posted by Meridon

No practice needed, just common sense.

Stop being bad.

Whoa, slow down, let everyone take notes.

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I'm thrilled the response is "stop sucking". However did we get along without such sound advice from our wonderful and helpful community?

RedDog91 · Nov 20, 2010, 06:18 PM // 18:18

On the bright side, all the little rangers of Ascalon are getting free max green bows becuz I just unload my stock of rotwing bows there after repeating over and over

Skyy High · Nov 20, 2010, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Stumme needs to get this ship on the right track and get back to the brutally challenging game that sold millions of copies and created the fan base which demanded the skillful play that made this game famous.

Wut?

/12chars

Killed u man · Nov 20, 2010, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Wut?

/12chars

The game pre-Factions in fact was very challenging. I remember Glint, THK and the Ring of Fire island being redicilously hard. As a matter of fact, people on guru had to form special teams and strategies for missions which can now be steamrolled in HM with heroes.

And as I recall, GW prophecies day was alot more fun, and a higher quality game overal. Wether or not the quality of the game, and the challenge are related, I'm not going to make claims on that, but you can't ignore the fact that as the game become easier and easier over the past years, the communities, both pve and pvp, have become more stupid, ignorant and even unwilling to learn to improve. Lazyness feeds lazyness, so to speak.

Wish Swiftdeath · Nov 20, 2010, 09:44 PM // 21:44

That's just nostalgia, we hadn't played the game for as long and weren't as good back then as we are now. Looking back on it I can't believe that I beat the game running the terrible bars that I did back then...

SpyderArachnid · Nov 20, 2010, 10:00 PM // 22:00

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

I hope you teenage girls are having fun dressing up your characters with wedding costumes while an extremely late SKILL update is moved back even further. GJ on making this game entirely about playing dress up and doing all content easily, instead of being about skill usage.

That is by far the most dumbest comment I have ever heard on this site.

I don't see this game at all about being about dress-up. If you think this game revolves around nothing but dressing up in costumes, then you have no idea what game this even is. And doing content easily? The game has been easy for several years now. This new content doesn't make anything anymore easier than it already was.

The game was never about skill usage. Everyone used the current Meta and only that for the longest time. It was always "Only this build works" so everyone would always use it. There is no skill in using some cookie cutter build that is posted on wiki. And those "skill updates" that were always coming, was just making class after class overpowered and breaking alot of skills.

So I'm glad there was no skill update that overpowered some class and broke skills. It happens every skill update. I'm glad we are getting new content. Otherwise, we'd still be doing the same boring things over and over again. If you don't like it, oh well. Don't do it. That simple. Don't come crying about it and insulting the entire player base cause you don't approve of new content.

Necromas · Nov 20, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Rotscale has always been a pushover if you have interrupts, the thing that makes him hard is the dragons around him and how the bridge funnels disorganized parties right into AoE, but the dragons are easy enough to kill with keiran just using hit and run tactics and his overpowered healing skill.

-Makai- · Nov 20, 2010, 10:27 PM // 22:27

*swims through costume complaints and quest queries*

So how exactly is BLA easier now? Less enemies? Skill changes? Alesia staying alive for more than two seconds?